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The first girl told me she couldn't exist under the
pressure anymore. she shows all this hate in her
eyes everytime she walks in the room and runs out.
“oh well"-she said. it's been nice knox7ing you.
“i'm sorry i spanked you that one time-- but it
looked like you liked it."
I stared back with disbelief because I knew the truth
asout the situation, and the band I was really
into at the time totally clarified my world in
terms that I understood--finally-and I knew it would
make sense to her if only i could make the right tape
for her. I wanted to tell her how much i loved
her, and that everything would be ok eventually-
that I had to exist in the right now that the
second girl was talking about and this was only a
Situation of the moment. things would be different
later. but i got upset- my reality took over and I
walked out the door. I guess i followed her even
though I didn't know it because it was a couple of
hours later, after she left. and when we finally
caught up to eachother in the alley we just passed
eachother by. oh my god.
the terrible thing happened when one day i woke up
and looked at her and knew that we had both fallen
apart at the seams and our bones and guts were
spilling all over the place. I smiled at this
realization because besides the gross Sickness of it
and stuff we had this cool affinity for eachother
and it was as though our worlds were totally else
now and we could be together forever. in this one
way.
and the only other girl i know now is the second
onewho calls me and tells me she knows what i'm .
thinking and it's good because i need to trust that
someone knows whats true to me. i think she does.
i think about commodity exchange and relationships
that exist like commodity exchange--that is winners
and losers, and profit etc.. and that i don't
@ really feel like i exist unless theres someone ,
else there to make sure that a relationship exists
between me and them. i cant be alone anymore. i
don't want to listen to myself i just wanna believe
that there is more beyond my brain.
“do you know what i mean". the girl who calls me.
sayS this a lot and it's really comforting because
‘for once in my life i really do. I know what she
means. we cant fall asleep together.
Moun GERMS 2
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dearest allison (xxooxx):
:the people in my class are pretty cool
except for this white boy. the other day, i took a phone
message and mispronounced someone's name, and he totally
belittied me in front of the class. i said "grause"
instead of “krause." in any case, he said that "grouse"
helongs outside and it is "krause!" i just didn't care
for the way he corrected me and the tone of his voice.
tian, he totally caught me off-guard cause i haven't
had anyone do that to me since my hi-school days. soi
was speechless for a few seconds. i thought the professor
or classmates would say something, but no one did.
so i thought to myself, well fuck him-- i'm going to tell
him cxactly what i think. i suppose you can look at this
as part of my claiming my adulthood. i yelled out,
"hey dude- (gave him the finger) fuck off and diet" i
think 1 shocked the hell out of everyone but they said
nothing. they were probably surprised by my confrontation
for asians usually avoid confrontation. that dumb boy
totally gave me weird looks for the next 24 hours. but
man, the following day, he was totally sucking up to
me for being a jerk the other day. and the rest is history.
Overall, the people and i talk a lot about our oppressions
and i've been trying to educate them on our cultural
differences.
itm also taking survey of american lit.,
and the professor is so rad. the dynamics of our class
is pretty fuckin rad, and we're so productive #ecause of
the students' interaction with one another. i've been
learning how to articulate my language, concepts, feminist-
marxist perspectives in such a way that they evoke their
deepest thoughts and feelings...but of course, in a very
Froductive way. i tried not to come off too threatening
‘til later on into the term. i thinkri left an impression,
for i believe they're finally understanding the plight of
women and people of color. this is reflected in both their
expressions and papers. i've made a lot of new girlfriends
in this class. i try to surround myself with really cool
girls and it smells so good and feels so safe. i totally
love them all and will fight for them.
we have this cool African-American boy who
has been very active in the class discussions. for awhile,
he stopped talking when i started_to express myself. i
felt so bad, so whenever he would say anything, i would
comment on what “an excellent point that was." { just
wanted to give him lots of support, for i believe our
white institutions don't always do that. guess what?--
it worked!! now, he's so active and we've been totally
supporting each other. i supposed some people may think
i‘m biased or prejudiced but itm not. i just feel that we
need to support people who have been marginalized, and
that i'm trying to bring those voices into the center.
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‘I just got finished reading Girl Germs and
now I'm sitting her thinking about where I stand
in my country. I figure we might as well burn ©
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the only
Bill I'll ever love) because most all of us are
being denied our rights. We have white males in
office telling us what to and not to say, it's . —
good to hate each other, how and what to do with
our bodies, and on and on. This makes me want to
kick a wall in. I can't vote (in November I'll
turn 15), so I can't kick Georgie Porgie out of
office. A woman comedian once said, "With a name
like Bush you'd think he would be for more women's
issues." As a teenager I'm not allowed to say much,
as a woman I can't say any more, and as a person.
in general I might as well shut-up. I live ina
small, southern town called Farmerville. I wish I
could move. Difference and op2n-mindedness are
not exactly promoted here. ,
Women should be practally worshipped. I mean
men can't make babies all by themselves, so if it
veren't for:‘us they'd all die out. Not that we're
baby making machines, but it is something to
think about. I can tell you some about discrimination
ty mom worked in a job and was experienced
and earned about $11 an hour. Along came an in-
experienced white guy who makes $14 dollars an hour,
three dollars more for nothing.
In Mississippi all known gays are forced to
live in a different part of a certain community...
ity grandmother says that it is “in the best interests
of the people." Tike, I guess sho donasn't consider
gays to be people? I better stop writing ‘cause
I'm getting pissed off and I need to go to bed.
-- Christie Riser
Farmerville LA
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Because this is what it's missing.
‘This is what it's lost. So give it back.
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P.S. Here's my Top Ten:
1, Courtney Love
2. “I Speak Your Every Word"
3. Hostess cherry pies
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Fifth Column
Messages left on my answering machine
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Dear Molly and Allison:
Thanks for “Girl Germs." Ih
closely yet, so no in-depth C4
interview and Erin's article .°
and both seemed fun. i
I am not mad at either of you 4.
you were going to print my leg
But I read it and it's not to}49
I can live with that. .
I am in a crummy mood. First of all, one of my friends accused
me of being a gay separatist. Then I went to a discussion on
new directions in feminism at a bookstore last night and there
were 30 women and maybe three men and one woman started talking
about self-defense and saying men do this men do that and I
bristled and I spoke up and said well I don't feel safe walking
down the street and I feel I need to learn self-defense because
I'm a skinny wimpy faggot and an acquaintance of mine was stabbed
in Chicago because he's a fag and a good friend of mine and
his boyfriend were assaulted in my hometown for being fags and
I tried to draw a parallel between men who sexually assault
women and men who bash fags and this woman sitting next to me
turned to me and screamed "YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RAPE"
which is true I don't live under the constant threat of sexual
assault but that's not what I said and I saw red and clammed
up and remembered that's why I've avoided politics for two years
people get emotional and don't listen and walking home I thought
feminists had better get over their castration fantasies and
deal with the big enemy which is patriarchy and it's in men's
best interest too to dismantle patriarchy and you honestly don't
expect ma to just sit there and let some stranger insinuate
that because I have a penis I am therefore a rapist. I'm still
upset.
The Chicago zine thing was awesome, despite what happened to
Steve, and I was so glad to finally get to'see Fifth Column
perform. Donna played guitar and Laura played drums for awhile
and Caroline and G.B. Jones (she asked me about "Girl Germs"
and said it's a great name for a zine) are old pals of mine
and besides, Fifth Column are amazing, don't you think?
“All-Time Queen of the World" is a prime example of what I'm
talking about when I talk about women creating their own musical
vocabulary. When they play they mix the vocals way up so you
can hear every word.
Recently read a book by Gertrude Stein. Can you tell?
I talked to Erin about getting some lesbians into "Sassy" so
“ell see. Your suggestion about an article on youth involvement
with Queer Nation is great, but what I want to see is a
first-person confession called "I am a Teenage Lesbian." I
want to see that headline on the front cover.
Enjoy your summer in the city. .
Dreamy,
thy Teo.
Jeffery , b
Dear Girl Germs...
Listen to this! Today I was going to class
after lunch and a teacher, Mr. Evans, stopped me
and my friend and asked us who left the mess on
the table. (Some one had left lunch trays and
milk cartons on the table.) We said it wasn't
ours, it was someone from lunch A and we were
going to leave, but he told us that we had to
take it up. It was 11:42 and the tardy bell rings
at 11:45, so we said we'll be tardy, and he did
the same thing last week and we were tardy and
got. bitched out by our teacher. Anyway I told him
I didn't make the mess so why should I clean it up
and get marked tardy? It wasn't my responsibility.
My friend was getting worked up and told him to
let us go! we'll be tardy! She uses her hands alot
so he starts acting like this total dick and
mimmmicks her actions,. "We'll be tardy, we'll be
tardy!" he says. Then he says "I'll write you a
pass if you tell me who did it." Der. Like we know
who made the fucking mess! We said we didn't know.
By this time the bell had already rung, so I
grabbed her hand and started to walk away, when he
put his arm around her and said "Bye sweetheart!"
Oh! the way he said it totally pissed me off,
so I turned around and said Don't you ever call us
Sweetheart again, chauvanist pig! He said "What,
sweetheart?"! PIG! We went to our English teacher
and told her what went on and we are going to get
him to give us a formal apology for being a pig.
God, I wanted to beat the shit out of him.
I should have.
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The boys are doing the gogo
Yes the boys are doing the gogo now
You may think its a no no
But most of us are just saying wow!
So the boys are doing the gogo now
but only firm ones
not just any cow -or bum steer
make me fetch a beer
drive down the street and call me a queer
because its our turn
I'm talking to oppressed ones
tryin' to live our lives without carrying guns
lets stage a turn-a-round with next to naked boys
how does that sound? be makin all the noise
-and throwin things
-ain't talking dollar bills
they ain't Chip'n'dales
I want them wearin heels
Their bodies oiled for the women who toiled
and for gay men who arn't as butch as ken.
The boys are doing the gogo
yes the boys are doing the gogo now
you may think its a no no
but most of us are just saying wow!
Tts time they got feminin
it what they're so afraid of
always freakin out about who I choose to love
Strip down, oilup, and hit the floor boyfriend
they created it
they supported it
so now I think its time they started using the shit
Boys be coy
its time to employ
your boyish charm
I'll lead you round by the arm
you can talk -but only when spoken to
a pretty walk -is something you'll have to do
to get respect ; ‘
bet you won't think its funny
tryin to find a date who's got lots of money
thats 1£ you're good enough and if your real pretty
don't act too tourh and give em' lots of titty
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yes the boys are doing the gogo now
you may think its a no no
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tonight the times are about to change
cuz the boys are dancing and we're out of range
how does it feel to be a piece of meat?
keep dancing, I'm watching you move to the beat
don't care if you're doin it for me or for money
we're all just watching your ass move, honey
smile, blow, lick your lips
give me a smile and shake those hips
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tonite.
SELENE: My name is Selene and I'm gonna say goodbye to my dud
tonight, and I play vocal chords.
VALERIE: I'm drinkin. I'm Valerie, I play the drums.
ELIZABETH/LIZ: I'm going to Public Enemy to get the shit kicked
out of me. Oh I play bags.
STEFANIE: I'm gonna get drunk. I'm Stefanie and I play guituor.
ME: uh-I don't have any particular questions ready. But I guess
what's really exciting right now for me is what you guy: are
doing-- with this single and all-- and if you could talk about
that, the process, what it is and stuff. I guess it's your lst?
SYB: yeah.
ME: Oh wait-- I have a better question. Tell me about how you
started and stuff like that.
ST: We all used to play together ina really dumb band called
Barbie's Dream Car...
S: No, it's not true-- some of us didn't play in Barble's Dreamear.
V: And it wasn't a dumb band!
S: Valerie was in Barbie's Dream Car and then Stefanie started
ME:
BITC
jamming with her, and I sang a couple songs with them and did
a couple shows.
And then Cheryl left to Germany-- she played bass-- and sv we
had Liz sit in.
I was just gonna be a temporary bass player.
Then Cheryl left so that band fell apart. But we decided that
we all liked playing together, so we kept playing. We hai to,,
think of a name really quick ‘cause we had a show. Actually, '
Ben London thought of the name. ¥
Well, how we started playing together was I knew Val and Setene
from the Market (and I barely knew them) but they knew I played.
And they were playing and I'd come down there and it'd be like,
“Yeah, I*m learning how to play bass!" “Wow I'm learning to Play
drums!" And so when their bass player left, she asked me.-
and it was cool. ‘Cause I was jammin in this speed metal band
in the North end--"Demon Box.“ But nothing ever happened {rom
that, but I learned a lot real fast ‘cause it was so fast!
And that was with chicks.
That was all girls? Is it still a band?
Yeah, they're all Playing,
We (7 Tear Bitch) all started learning our instruments while we
were forming a band. Even still, song writing and stuff is a
complete mystery to us. The whole thing still feels new.
Well ok. ‘When all else fails,
yell and everything's coveredty
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everyone would look at Lisa,
She has great stage presence.
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out. Everyone's been so supportive since we started the band.
it's been cool. It was recorded in July ('91) and Julien from
DC Beggars did it free for us as a-student project at the Seattle
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a band, ‘cause that's what we've all been doing all of our lives.
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Acid who played with us last summer-- seven songs or so.
And we're gonna be on the next Teriaki Asthma compilation on C/2.
So yeah, it seems like all this stuff’s been culminating, and
this last month just pouring-- it's really exciting. We bought
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Lorna, No Fuckin War, and You Smel! Lonely. Selene writes al} the
lyrics, except on No Fuckin, Steve from the Gits wrote them with Sclene
during the war. It changes back and forth between “no fuckin war”
and "we're fuckin poor.”
Depending on our financial state! or after the war was over.
which it really isn't.
It's more about like, not just us four being poor: it's our shole
society having so many poor people right here and then we qe ‘itt
to war and spend millions of dollars on that, but there's thins
we need to deal with right here-- and that's the lyrical switen-
off. I mean, sometimes I am really poor!
But to me, that song's more than just a protest about the war, hut
a protest about how it was protested. You know that one line
"I saw no fuckin riot, I want a‘fuckin riot"-- kind of a dis-
satisfaction with the whole situation from all ends.
With all the cops and stuff-- that whole line that’ “You can donce + Six
plead and prog for peace , and hope it all goes away" is so L
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That reminds me of when Bikini Kill does that thing singing
“Give peace a chance" with screams in the background. Oh, Liz is
leaving to Public Enemy, is there anything you wanna say?
I just,wanna say that if you're a chick and you wanna play. you
should just fuckin doit and not wait around for a bunch of rove
models to show up. I just read this thing in MRR where this girl
wrote in and asked why there's no role models. I think you sheuld
make yourself a role model and just do it.
I think it's harder to wait for role models/tokens/ctc. T mean,
like Babes in Toyland-- I'm never gonna be able to sound like
that! fuck. 7
Plus there's sorta like this invented mystique that it's really
something hard and tricky to be in a band--like “oh wow!"-- but
it’s really easy if you wanna do it.
So, I stole your set list at that show. I love the names of your
songs!
You were the one who did that! Some girl just ripped it off the
stage!--"“spit, war, smell, dead men ...”
Val said “I wanna write a song Dead Men Non't Rape” from graffitti
on the street.
we wrote all these hilarious lyrics, most of which we decided vere
too harsh for the song; so we changed it a bit.
Oh, those wome:'s Castration Fantasies!
It's survival.
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ME: Tell me‘ahbout You Smell Lonely.
S: 1t's about men who make comments to you walking down the street
The saying. came from Jennifer and Russel, our friends.
Vv: Like a geek in a bar slobbering all over you-- they smell lonely.
S: The part that goes “What goes on in the mind of a man like you?"
Like, what the fuck are you thinkin to be saying shit like this?
It's insane, some of the stuff guys say to you.
Me: Hey what's Lorna about??
S: Lorna is a bunch of different women that I know+- but I decided
to name it after just this one woman. The lyrics are in the 7".
ST: I still think it's about me.
Me: 1 thought it was really great. Lorna's such a cool name, a
qirl's name. To hear girls singing about other girls is new to
me, ‘cause usually what I hear jis girls (myself included) singing
about boys and fucked up situations (which is totally valid...)
St: 1t never seemed bad, not derogatory in any sense-- just like
here's me and this is what I do (from another girl's standpoint.)
That's why I like that song.
Me: It seemed really supportive of your girlfriends.
S:> ‘That's what it was, because I have a lot more closer girlfriends
than I ever had in my life. That song came from having a lot ofr
really strong feelings about my friends-- where they're at and
what they're going through. And a lot of us do go out and get
really fucked up and go through this shit, and that's the way it
is. It's not at all derogatory.
LORNA
She had the cool and distant gaze
of a girl who wasn’t raised
so much as self made
Now @ Woman not fazed by the others
selfish rage
She made love She didn’t get laid
And the charm was always going
When the beer was free & Nowing
Reminiscent of the wild tines
Yeah she was hot bot girl hot night
Lying fucked up on the floor she was
fucked up on the floor
She put her head into the pain
She put her head into the pane
And then she pulled back
the bloody remalus . . .
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school ‘cause I hate people, and I didn't go to college ‘cause I A.
hate learning. I moved to Portland for a while, but it was really :
boring ‘cause everyone just shoots drugs and drinks and there's
like one good band-- now there's two (M-99 and Poison Idea-- ot.
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Alaska for a while-- that
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wanan who played music there. Then I moved around a lot. I haven ty a a
in one stationary place through my childhood. I travelled agus eles
while, then I went to Antioch Oollege (in Ohio) and that's where I me Se
folks fran the Rathouse collective. ‘Then we all decided to nove out oe Riad
Actually I was just visiting my man, but I decided to quit college ar = ‘ze oe
and started taking drum lessons from my friend Steve. Playing with a a :
just forces you to pick things up a lot faster. I've only been playing for a
little over a vear
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S: I've been singing a year and a half,
St: I've been playing guitar for about 4 years and I played drums before that. My
My influences are Steelpole Bathtub and Killdozer-- so I wanna play noisy, but
my feedback sound's gotta go! I think we've. all improved incredibly.
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vz I think that since Liz has been playing with Atomic 61 her song writing ability
has improved immensely, and that's really helped us out a lot. She writes the
majority of the material now. Stefanie writes good stuff too, but Liz has been
on overdrive with two bands and all-- thinking about music all the time. It's
not like she's dictating the sound-- 'cause we all write the music together, like
a communal effort.
Me: It sounds like it. I'm actually amazed at how much you all share. Often songy-
writing turns into this really privatized thing and there's so much fear in
sharing it.
St: Yeah, for us it's a completely collaborative thing.
Me: How do you situate yourselves in msic-- like, as girls/women in music or in an
all-female band? What's important to you about being in a “girl band" and how
do you even feel about that categorization?
V: I think it's a valid question that comes up a lot. I think, basically, we play
‘ together 'cause we're friends-- like guys always playing together. It's who your
peers are, who you can relate to. I just can't imagine playing with anyone else.
These are the people I identify with and who I wanna hang out with. It's noé
that it has to be all women, although that does play into it, but at the same
time it's sorta natural-- like, of course this is who I wanna play with.
St: I don't want it to be like "Yeah there's this really great girl band 7 Year
Bitch..." but more like "Yeah there's this really great band called 7 Year Bitch
by the way, they're girls." I don't want people to say "They're really quod,
for women" kinda thing. I don't want our sex to make a difference.
Vv: But it does, it does! I think there definitely is an issue there. There's a
novelty in being an "all-girl band". It would be ridiculous of us to try to deny
it. I mean, I don't care and can't control what people are gonna think about it.
S: I agree with them. I feel like it's a question of who I feel canfortable playing
with. A lot of times people have come up after we've Played and say, “I totally
came here with this preconceived idea that you guys were gonna suck, but I wanted
to check you out ‘cause I heard all this stuff. But god, you're pretty good...”
And it's irritating ‘cause they think they're saying this to flatter you, but
it's like "gee, thanks." It's irritating. I mean, maybe it's good, maybe we're
helping open their minds. Like, "Oh wow, you're women and you can play!" Buti;
it's like, No shit! A
St: Like we can't play ‘cause we have tits!
Vv: Just think about how many all-boy bands we sat through!
St: Yeah, there's so many bad boy bands out there; it's funny that they say shit
about us or about women in general. It's true a lot of people cane up to us aml
go "I expected just this mediocre and I was real impressed." It depends on how
they say it which will irritate me the most or not. Some people are really
condescending.
Me: Like "I'm granting you this Coolness..." It kinda reminds me of the Clarence
Thomas senate “trial"-- everyone speaks of Anita Hill like "Wow, she spoke so
well...(almost like a white man)"
Vv: It's pretty typical of society. #
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vou please
The scene is a high school age girl sitting very close to the audience. Directly
behind her sit three glamour high school girls covering their faces with vogues and
seventeens.
She speaks:
Did you ever do something really stupid because you couldn't do what you really
wanted? Did you ever do yomething so stupid that you wanted to hide, like forever.
When | was a kid and things got scary | would hide in the wicker laundry basket in
my bathroom.
| slept with this really stup!d guy last night.
Now, when.! wanta hide | get really into boys and ! talk about them, and I fool
around with them. And they're pretty stupid, I'm mean their Ike scared, you know,
to touch it, you know, down there. | have to tell: them how, GOD, and they act like
its the biggest deal. and then ! jack them off and! always just pray they wont cum
on my couch.
| play around with boys a lot. But | don't really like it, people talk about me and
how | fool around and they don't know | don't like it and that sometimes | say no
and the guy doesn't even listen and up on the cetling watching my body with the
boy
Sharron Bell is a Lesbian and she's in my grade and everybody knows It,she’s a
Jock | mean we think she is. inmy family we only know gay men, you know- we
don't know any Lesbians. My best friend Mark Is Gay and !'m the only one at schoo!
who knows. everybody at school always asks me about him but | just Ile and say |
don't know. Everybody worries a lot about what he is.
| stare at girls sometimes but, you know, | mean, my mom says Lesbians are really
mean and hurt men and stuff. She tells me she's afraid I'm gunna nate men.
Sometimes | wish | could hold girls the way | hold guys, you know, just kinda fuck
around like you'd do when you where kids.
Sometimes | wish I could hang out with girls and not talk about guys. Like last
night, | didn't really wanna be with that guy, but my friend sald it would be fun. |
had a much better time talking about it with her then doing it with him. Me and her
we talk about sex a lot.
Sometimes | think about touching her and knowing how, but then ,| don’t know It
just all gets to scary. | makes me Just want to hide, so | do.
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magazines and begin to talk they begin to question Her. “Where were you last
night?" and She can answer, Just like you can, “Well you know that guy that | was
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you think you're fucking me. but i wanted to
fuck you first. don't ever forget it.
you're totally in love with me. right now.
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of course you won't be later, but that's your ‘atten tor this
problem. but right now you do. that's real. magazines
now is real. don't ever forget it. the choice
i'm desperate now. but don't think i need you.: : temporary
i just need to. now. now is real.’don't think 2 any other
you can get away with disrespecting me later. ig ABNANIS
just because you don't get it. just because aRHEIe) ONE
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double negative. intense. you said it, 1 didn't.
don't ever forget it. you forgot. ‘cause you
never respected the now. I'm too intense. )
yeah right. just ‘cause you're too afraid too AL.
ridiculous too meen. too annoying.
you're a lie that never bothered me. you're
the double negative. i fucked you and fooled you.
so there.
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Toy guns or real guns ?
- in the back of my head |
shoot him dead.
Mr penis TOAD man
walks by with a shirt and a plan
says SHUT UP BITCH
big bold letters for me to read
so he can feed “
on intimidating the girls he sees.
Toy Guns or Real Guns ? :
Time to make a decision
to choose my vision.
What will shut HIM up
- fuck HIM up the butt
suck your own dick,prick,
big hard thick mick
Girls just wanna have fun
but you've made me grab a gun
you've got to be undone.
Toy Guns or Real Guns ?
or just Burn his Bed
like Farrah said
or OFF with his head.
Enough to joke in this weather ?
wear spandex instead of leather
toy holsters, high heeled boots
Fantacies of Cat woman
Wnder woman
the Bionic woman
and Charley's Angels
But the man with the plan
says SHUT UP BITCH
loudly on his T-shirt
Silencing my voice
denying my choice
and my toy guns won't shut him up
my girl games don't kick his butt
Toy Guns or Real Guns ?
what will do the trick ?
what will speak to his dick ?
do it with style and class
but kick the toads ass
leather is good in any weather
MODEL 69
and real guns bang louder than plastic
aim for his basket
and drown out the SHUT UP BITCH
in big loud print
Mr penis TOAD man better hide his face
cuz 've got a piece
and I've got a place
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o.k., this is the best thing ever. I cried during
their show on girl nite + i can't stop listening...
yeah + we even get to hit the road blood red w/ them™
and a caravan o' pals this summer for a tour extra-
vaganza across across across. hey and i bet you
could get this tape too if you sent like $9
to them and said please:
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BARBED WIRE DOLLS:
1 love this band- they have these cool stickers
that look and smell like plastic barbie. they're 5
city grrrls (total dreams) w/ this cheerleader -
metal brat attack. They got a single on Get Hip
records w/ this neato song that goes "dr. dr. can't
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ij believe in you. can of worms. i know what
really happened and no one can take it away.
mowhawk and a dress, we're the ones who make us
real. it's real and you have to deal with it.
and with stacies infamous calves on the cover, who
can resist. yeah and fuck you mykel board, whoever
you think you are. so it’ deke, o.k..
send $3 to deke and clay
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PICASSO TRIGGER: Colossal man 7"
This was an awsesurprise in my little mailbox. I dont
know what to say beacuse i hate describing music.
I just cant stop listening to the side with terminator
hank and colossal-may,lisa and kathy scream queen
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so this mysterious treat came in the mail- about 23
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other. wow! no explantion. send a couple of stamps
and green ones to:
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so Larry Bob's this sweet scoundrel of a punk queer
boy w/ a computer who did a‘beat generation’ movie
review for us - so kindly that we had to make a serious
editorial decision to refrain from such dead kid
indulgence. thanks anyways though! (p.s. there
are mass contributions in this fanzine so if you are
so inclined please contribute to him!)
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prospective: plans for the breeding centres you out-
lined in "The Job"? You know how you “don't want
women wandering around (while pregnant) because
there's all: sorts. of things that can happen to a
child: before birth." (The: Job, W.S.Burroughs, 1974)
Shielding children from any female influence
while maturing, because it could prove detrimental, is
another concern.of yours too, isn't it? .
Isn't..there a grant you can get for ground-
breaking research like that?
Getting in-much target. practice? And how ‘bout that
Cronenberg? -When all's said. and.done at least we can
say you've never been on the cover of "XTRA".
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Dear Molly & Allison,
I really loved Girl Germs#3, especially Karen Catchpole's
article on masturbation, except that I want to disagree with
tone thing. Karen says that if you masturbate, you're still
a virgin - but thems no such thing as virginity! It's just
an abstract idea, and it's a harmful one, too.
A "virgin" is supposedly a person who hasn't had sex.
Theware probaly hundreds of sex acts ("acts" sounds strange
to me, but I can't think of another term) that you can do
“ alone or with a partner, but only one (intercourse) counts
as “real" sex. There's no logical reason for us to call this
the only real sex, and it doesn’t even cause any physical
changes the first time you do it. As Karen said, we usually
don't have hymens any way. The only reason some women bleed
when they first have intercourse is that they haven't trained
their vaginas (with -dildoes, candlesticks, veggies, etc. in
gr@uated sizes) to relax enough to open for something the
size of a penis. I'm sure some women can relax enough without
practice. No one ever talks about this - the attitude seemsto
be that those shameless hussies should suffer for “losing”
their “virginity”! By the way, a female gynecologist told
me that sometimes women have surgery to have a hymen removed
(I don't know if the surgeon really does that or just cuts
into the vagina), and the surgery ends up making intercourse
hurt worse than it did before!
Obviously, the fact that intercourse is considered to
be the only “real" sex act causes people to do it a lot more
often than they do the other acts. I don't want to knock
intercourse completely, since I love it, myself, but it’s
really the worst act for everyone to choose to do 2very Lime
they have sex. It's the only act (besides vagina to penis
rubbing) that causes unwanted pregnancy, and all well-known
forms of birth control are hazardous to a woman's health.
It's also one of the riskiest acts in terms of spreading
diseases like AIDS, especially for women. Sex just doesn't
have to be as risky as the fundies want it tobe! Those of
us who do want to do the riskier acts should be informed about '
how to protect ourselves.
And let's not forget whemthe idea of virginity came
from! It was invented by men who saw women as property,
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If you were a “virgin"
you has a higher market value because your husband could be
sure you weren't pregnant with another man's child.
This is why female "virgins" are conidered "pure" and
“unspoiled" and one reason why sex is considered “dirty”.
This stereotype is especially cruel to rape victims. Other
stereotypes of “virgins” (that they're ignorant about or
afraid of sex, or that they're immature) and of non- "virgins"
(that they're sluts, or, for men, that they're men) cause
a lot of distress - and false divisions among- young people
(the old virgin/whore thing). So that's why I think we need
to LOSE the concept of virginity!.
Most Sincerely,
Adele Hunt
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